United States Forest Service
Land Between The Lakes (LBL)
Land Between The Lakes
ADVISORY BOARD MEETING MINUTES
February 8, 2007
The Land Between The Lakes (LBL) Advisory Board convened at 9:00 a.m. at the Administrative Building, Land Between The
Lakes in Golden Pond, Kentucky. The meeting was open to the public.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mr. Vernon Anderson
Mr. Joe Baust
Mr. Pat Brandon
Ms. Ben Helen Burkeen
Mr. Ed Clebsch
Mr. James Ford
Mr. Steve Morgan
Ms. Della Oliver (Alternate)
Mr. David Smith
Mr. Ben Stone
Mr. Jim Wallace
Mr. Marvin Wilson
ADVISORY BOARD STAFF PRESENT:
Mr. Tom Peterson, Advisory Board Chairperson
Mr. Bill Lisowsky, Designated Federal Official (DFO)
Mr. Alex Faught, Facilitator
Ms. Sharon Byers, Advisory Board Administrative Liaison
*NOTE: FS comments/replies are noted in italics following member's comments or questions.
Three members of the public and eight Forest Service (FS) employees
attended this meeting.
Alex Faught opened the meeting with introductions from everyone. Tom
Peterson gave a special welcome to Mr. Ford, attending his first Advisory
Board meeting. Mr. Ford was given a padfolio containing reference and
background information for the Board.
Alex provided general logistics information for the day and reviewed the
purpose of the Board, which is to provide advice to the Secretary on
environmental education (EE) and a means of promoting public participation
for the Land and Resource Management Plan (LRMP). He briefly went over
some of the past work done by the Board, including an Appreciative Inquiry
(AI) session where members developed core values, desired future
conditions, and strategies for EE at LBL.
Tom started the day's discussions where the Board left off in November by
asking members if they still wanted to prioritize the strategies they had
developed.
- Ed said it's the Board's responsibility to give its best advice to
the FS, and the best way to do that is to provide thoughts on what's
important, in some kind of order, and then let the FS decide whether
they'll be able to use the information.
- David said it would be good to be able to do everything, but choices
would have to be made due to finances and resources. Prioritizing would
help in that effort.
- Della said prioritization is a way the Board can help get the job
started.
- James asked if some of the strategies would have to be built on a
foundation.
Bill answered that as members look at each strategy they may see a
chronological sequence influencing what should be done first. Each
individual will have their own priorities.
Sharon Waltrip, EE Interpretive Specialist, explained that prioritizing the
strategies into groups of high, medium, and low would be the most useful to
the FS. That will provide flexibility, but also direction and focus. By
prioritizing, the Board shows where they feel the need is greatest, but
this doesn't mean strategies lower on the list won't be pursued; some may
be done simultaneously.
A list of the ten strategies developed by the Board was provided for their
use in selecting the four they thought should be given the highest
priority.
- Establish LBL as an EE Laboratory and a demonstration site for EE
through a diversity of learning styles.
- Promote public awareness of, and involvement in, the environment.
- Promote appreciation and understanding of various user groups.
- Teach the importance of maintaining diverse natural and managed
environments consistent with the LRMP.
- Provide a focus for our communities to get involved in activities
that promote an awareness of nature.
- Increase focus on funds development.
- Build relationships with school systems within useable distance from
LBL.
- Involve all age groups in "research"
- Successfully compete for people's leisure time.
- Create new interactive and integrated EE programs.
The following four strategies from the above list were given the highest
priority:
- Teach the importance of maintaining diverse natural and managed
environments consistent with LRMP.
- Build relationships with school systems within useable distance from
LBL.
- Establish LBL as an EE laboratory and a demonstration site for EE
- Promote public awareness of, and involvement in, the environment.
Tom asked if everyone was satisfied with these selections as the four with
the highest priority. Board discussion included the following comments:
- The last two set a stage for increased funds development. (Ben)
- If the FS tries to raise funds, they need a clear definition of what
will be done. Individuals may be more agreeable to fund a project that is
in line with a specific goal. (Joe)
- Funding will be a strategy to reach all the goals. (Pat)
- With demonstration, LBL can blaze trails as an EE model for others to
follow. (Joe)
- We need to develop strategies that promote the utilization;
strategies diverse enough to attract user groups that justify funding.
(Vernon)
- Money was set aside with the Trust Fund; funds should be available.
It would be helpful to know the amount. (Della)
In a sense funding is always an issue, but we need to know if
we're doing the right things. The Board is expressing what is most
important; the FS challenge will be to see if we're lining up with that,
and if not, why not. We're looking for a mark to tell us where we should
put our efforts and then we'll look at options for doing that.
- Some strategies might be combined. Successfully competing for
people's leisure time, might fall in with promoting public awareness.
Creating new interactive and integrated EE programs could fall in with
establishing LBL as an EE laboratory and a demonstration site for EE. We
could insert "community groups" in the strategy for building relationships
with school groups. (Ben)
- One problem is utilization of current programs. Utilizing what's
here and building on that is important. There was a lot going on at LBL 25
years ago, but the decline of TVA and funding issues, were part of the
downfall when there was utilization of EE in the area. (Jim)
- How many visits were made to schools in the last year; how many
presentations to teachers/schools about what's here at LBL. (Marvin)
The main focus hasn't been going to schools, but we do teach the
teachers and provide facilities at LBL. Educator workshops and teacher
appreciation events have been held at LBL and we are involved in the school
field grant program.
Jim Rufli, LBLA, said the school grant program has put out
extensive info on what LBL has to offer. The program provides the ability
for schools to apply for grants that reimburse them for part of their
expenses when visiting LBL. Last year, over $20,000 went to schools and
over 4,000 students visited.
- In the past there was a van program, in partnership with Murray State
that went to schools. Murray State now provides a graduate assistant to
visit schools. In the fall, 1437 students were seen by the Murray State
representative. (Joe)
- We need to involve all groups that have an interest in LBL. (Vernon)
Dr. Calhoun, attending the meeting as a member of the public, asked the
Board if he might raise a question and was provided that opportunity. He
asked if the goals being discussed were to improve and enhance what LBL is
building on, and would grants received be above and beyond the operating
budget? Also, where does the FS apply for grants?
The FS views the Board's recommendation as the right things to be
doing, or things that need to be done differently in the future. Grants
would be above the operating budget. Often the LBL Association can apply
for grants and the FS can supply matching funds. When applying, we have to
show how our program fits in to their criteria. The FS has a lot of
ongoing partnerships, including ones that helped rebuild the Long Creek
Refuge and helped accomplish prescribed burns. We're supporting Murray
State with $15,000 for the school grant program. St Stephens Church
restoration was a partnership project with former residents.
Tom reminded the Board about Ben's suggestion of rewording and possibly
consolidating some strategies, and asked if they wanted an opportunity to
wordsmith the strategies further. Vernon made a motion to include
"community groups" with the strategy concerning building relationships with
school systems; David seconded the motion. Tom called for a vote and all
were in favor. The strategy was reworded as follows:
- Build relationships with school systems and community groups within
useable distance from LBL.
Following this discussion, Sharon Waltrip provided feedback on the EE
strategic plan telling the Board that as she looked at the high priority
strategies they'd chosen, the words in the draft document have more meaning
because now there are four areas where she can begin to focus. She said
the EE strategic plan doesn't stand alone. It's tiered under a National
Plan, also regional emphasis, and the local LRMP. As money becomes
available, staff can look at the EE plan, match items with partners, and
look for funding. The EE plan will give consistency with key messages;
provide continuity and evaluation. It helps improve public involvement,
garner new partnerships, and promote community commitment. The EE plan
will help staff prioritize, integrate, and adequately fund programs.
Sharon hopes the members will want to help build relationships with school
systems and community groups, and said the possibilities increase if the
Board continues to help outside of the official meetings.
Since the Board was ahead of schedule, they requested Bill provide LBL updates before lunch. After providing the information below, he answered
questions from the members.
- The State of Kentucky recently passed a regulation calling for
additional measures to prevent the spread of chronic wasting disease. This
directly affects the Elk & Bison Prairie and elk reintroduction effort.
The LBL herd continues to be disease free, but we must comply with the new
requirements. Animals will be tagged and a new gate, which must be closed
at all times, will be installed. This technology takes time and will not
be cheap.
- The State made its final recommendation and the Highway Department
made its decision on an alternative for Highway 68/80. A design-build
concept will be used for the eight miles through LBL. Comments were taken
from the public and the FS provided careful design parameters that allow us
to maintain the native natural appearance of LBL. A bike trail will go
through LBL and tie to the two bridges. Work is expected to begin this
spring.
- A couple of projects from the LRMP have begun. Staff is working on
the EA that will set strategies for maintaining our open lands. That
decision should be made by the end of March or early April. It has been
out for public comments and staff is looking through our alternatives.
- The Prior Creek Project (an 8800-acre area within the southern oak
grassland demonstration area) is another project from the LRMP. In this
project, we're looking at EE and recreation in all areas; considering the
most important priorities for that area within the next 10 years. The
decision on this project is not as far along, but it has been through some
public involvement. It has not yet been out for official notice and
comment.
- How well is the oak grassland project tied to EE programs?
It is connected. We're looking on how to expand on what we have -
education about resource management, birding trails, walking tours,
wildlife viewing opportunities, etc.; looking at all possibilities. We
have a good opportunity to test some new things in this area.
- What resources are going to this project and do they impact other EE
programs?
We are using some of the same people who are working on other
items. We are using some of the same skills we use in other facilities,
but part of our job is to look ahead and plan. Brian Beisel, Customer
Service Department Manager, explained that in looking at "dispersed
recreation" we know many visitors don't interact with staff. In the LRMP,
we state that we want to deliver an EE message to every visitor. When they
arrive they may have a particular area of interest. They'll have
information so they can go to specific area, but stops along the way will
have a multiple purpose. There may be a historical component, wildlife
watching, or it could be a self guided EE experience.
- Can the FS staff comment on the lawsuit concerning the agriculture
fields?
Since the Judge has not ruled, the FS can't comment on the
lawsuit. However, staff can talk about what is being planned for this
year. In the LRMP, new riparian corridors were identified and those areas
are being implemented. Permittees have been directed to adjust to those
new standards during the current year. As part of creating those
corridors, we intend to plant them, but won't treat with a pesticide and
will not harvest them.
- Is there any mitigation for the acreage being lost?
The LRMP gives direction to maintain the areas of open lands. These areas will mostly be mowed in the future, though some will revert to forest over time.
- What is happening in regards to timber harvest?
Several sales have been conducted in the last few years. In the
oak-grassland project, there is a need to thin those forests (about 40%).
As we make that decision, those projects will be offered for sale. We'll
move back to WA18 now that it's no longer under lawsuit. We're also
looking at one site in the northern oak grassland area. Some sales were
done due to nature's effort, such as the damage caused by the tornado.
- Are areas previously designated under biosphere still being
maintained?
Yes they are being left as "core areas" as designated in the LRMP.
They are managed the same as they were when designated as biosphere areas.
- Ed noted that the FS could do a better job of conveying the rewards
of a timber harvest for the benefit of the land and said he was finally
convinced there was a need for timber harvest. Before the area was
populated, fire maintained the area.
Judge Humphries, attending as a member of the public, asked if timber harvest was a budget item.
Timber is harvested only for wildlife management, scenic
vistas, and forest health. Revenue comes back to LBL. Timber harvest is
not a commercial program for LBL.
The Board broke for lunch with Alex reminding everyone that no official
business would be conducted during the break. When members returned, they
broke into three groups and each discussed one of the strategies ranked as
high priority, listing possible action items. Notes were taken in each
group and a member of the group presented their discussion to the full
Board.
Strategy: Promote public awareness of, and involvement in, the environment.
(David Smith, spokesperson; Brian Beisel, facilitator; Regina Weakley, recorder)
- Public outreach
a. Development of tools
b. Educational environmental feature articles in local media
outlets
- a. Demonstration of best management practices (logging)
— Educate farmers/contractors
b. Involve outside agencies w/demonstration
— Oak Grassland Demonstration Area
c. Field trips-conservation groups (TN Trails Assoc., Sierra Club,
etc.)
- Sales pitch to public officials
- Utilize volunteers (shadowing) PTOs, Kiwanis, etc.
- Participate in local leadership and civic programs
- 68/80 environmental education signage
- Review TVA environmental education documents
Strategy: Teach the importance of maintaining natural and managed
environments consistent with LRMP.
(James Ford, spokesman; Darrin
Samborski, facilitator; Janice Wilson, recorder)
- Create opportunities for audience to discover their natural heritage
(packaged videos, photos-computer/Internet)
- Continued development of age appropriate activities (delivery
methods)
— Create video resources (computer/Internet) — a "hook" to gain
interest
- Create opportunities for audience to have personal experiences within
the target environment (hands-on)
- Identify consequences to not having good management practices in
place and not taking care of the natural environment
- Share education techniques w/other agencies
— Communities and schools
Strategy: Build relationships with school systems and community groups
within useable distance from LBL.
(Joe Baust, spokesman; Amanda Wilson,
facilitator; Wanda Crump, recorder)
- Continue at higher level to identify and remove barriers to schools
to come to LBL.
a. Provide EE outreach programs that relate to CORE content for kids
and teachers.
b. Show EE is interdisciplinary (not just science).
c. Work at top of "food chain" including superintendents and judge
executives.
d. Programs for community organizations such as Chamber of Commerce,
Rotary, Tourism, Senior Citizen groups, etc.
e. Partnerships with Fish and Wildlife, 4-H, County Extensions, NRCS,
FSA, Conservation Groups.
f. Programs/relationship with Parent Teacher Organizations/Associations.
g. Interactive television in classrooms, possibly daily/weekly
updates.
h. Show how to maximize pre and post trip activities.
i. Meet with site-based councils for helping schools meet testing
goals.
j. Show how LBL can build health and wellness.
- Use demonstration mission to export and model EE to other public
lands (e.g., BLM, Interior)
- Work with local universities to offer college credit/professional
development.
No strategies were eliminated during these discussions. The remaining
strategies for further discussion are listed below. There was discussion
that some strategies listed below might actually be part of one of the
three already discussed, rather than separate issues. It was also
discussed that the first item listed below might be a desired future
condition, rather than a strategy.
- Establish LBL as an EE Laboratory and a demonstration site for EE
through a diversity of learning styles.
- Promote appreciation and understanding of various user groups.
- Provide a focus for our communities to get involved in activities
that promote an awareness of nature.
- Increase focus on funds development
- Involve all age groups in "research".
- Successfully compete for people's leisure time.
- Create new interactive and integrated EE programs.
Tom asked how the members felt about what had been accomplished in these
breakout discussions and if the remaining strategies were adequately
covered.
- Some of the other strategies need more exploration and discussion.
(Ed)
- You can't do EE without doing research; research is essential. (Joe)
- The other strategies should be discussed to see how they might
develop. (Della)
- Will the other strategies go away if not discussed separately; it
might be necessary to keep a strategy for funds development. (David)
- Wouldn't the four that received the highest priority form a cohesive
mechanism by which all the others can be achieved? (Ben)
- The Board serves as an advisor to the Secretary of Agriculture and
could provide the Secretary with a golden bullet if we move LBL towards
being a national level environmental education demonstration location.
Lynn Hodges might be able to elaborate more on this possibility. (Ed)
- Part of the original legislation specifically addressed the
demonstration mission and we need to continue that emphasis. (Ben)
Lynn Hodges, attending as a member of the public, was asked by the Board to
give his thoughts on the role they have in providing advice to the
Secretary. He said each new secretary looks for something new to share
with other Secretaries. He thinks LBL is in an enviable position as an
advisor to the Secretary of Agriculture and can offer a demonstration of
how to do EE on public lands.
Tom asked if the information developed today was enough or would members
like to work on it further; would they like a chance to review the
strategies discussed by the other groups and provide feedback. The members
decided the strategy "Establish LBL as an EE Laboratory and a demonstration
site for EE through a diversity of learning styles" may need to be elevated
to a desired future condition, and that the remaining items should be
addressed at a future meeting. Members did want to review the breakout
group notes further and FS staff will put together these notes and provide
to the members by e-mail with comments requested back by early March.
No comments regarding the mission of the Board were received from the
public for discussion.
Alex asked for suggested agenda items for the next meeting; none were
provided. Bill mentioned a site visit at LBL had been proposed previously
and said one could be done at the next meeting.
Tom asked how long the Board would like to wait until returning to deal
with the remaining items. A meeting before the end of April was suggested,
and after discussion on available dates, Thursday, April 5, was selected as
the next meeting date.
Tom said he appreciated everyone attending today's meeting and noted the
work done will be very helpful to FS interpretive/EE staff. He thanked the
members for their participation and valuable input. He gave a special
thanks to Alex for facilitating, and adjourned the meeting at 3:15 pm.
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THOMAS A. PETERSON
LBL Advisory Board Chairperson
USDA Forest Service, Region 8 |
3/02/07
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